did you know tha portugal has first electric cars out into the public selling in 2010 , at about 14.000 usd . 2000 daily production.
does not pay parking " it has special conditions " why does u.s.a not have this option as a such advanced country " wake up , you are getting behind in eco systems .
marjan15(Monday 22nd of September 2008 09:45:06 AM)
Last seven years global troposphere temperature is dropping. This might be called global cooling. ( friendsofscience org )
maan100283(Monday 22nd of September 2008 11:20:56 AM)
Your quoting a source that's funded by oil companies ( sourcewatch org/index.php ?title=Friends_of_Science ) and that is using uncorrected UAH MSU satellite data. One of the researchers of that project, Roy Spencer, was on Earth: The Climate Wars (eps 2), telling that the data was faulty. The satellites orbit was not correctly calculated, when corrected the data is the same as ground measurements. You can look up the really interesting serie at the pirate bay (search climate wars)
marjan15(Monday 22nd of September 2008 01:25:57 PM)
The source of measurements is MSU satellite [ATMOS UAH, MSFC NASA] which clearly shows temperature drop in last couple of years. You can do as many corrections as you want on those measurements, but you can not deny obvious temperature drop.
maan100283(Monday 22nd of September 2008 01:41:37 PM)
Strange you cite UAH data, since on their website they say their satellite data confirms global warming and actions should be taken to decrease CO2 output: google uah News climatebackground
marjan15(Tuesday 23rd of September 2008 03:29:46 AM)
The graphs are very clear about global temperature. Why is it so hard to believe for most of people that global temperature is dropping last couple of years?
maan100283(Tuesday 23rd of September 2008 05:39:50 AM)
"There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies, and statistics."
If the graph is so clear, why aren't even the authors of the graph convinced?
If you have any degree in science you know that figures themself mean nothing unless you know how they came about, how they fit in the rest and what they tell in the big picture. Satellites' raw data tells nothing if you didn't calculate the effects of friction on the satellite. That's what happened at UAH. Google dn11660, it is all about this graph.
marjan15(Tuesday 23rd of September 2008 06:59:44 AM)
According to some there will always be something wrong with measurements that shows temperature drop, even if it's the most precise satellite measurements humanity ever built.
[Al Gore, hockey stick graphs, CO2 causing GW, Kyoto...] It's becoming dogmatic religion this GW hype. It's not science anymore, it's politics thanks to Al Gore and people alike.
kaduisaui(Tuesday 16th of December 2008 08:04:47 PM)
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