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there is no such thing as western propaganda, our media is free, russia's is not. The death of anna politkovskaya proves it.
PutinProper(Sunday 23rd of November 2008 12:09:43 PM)
You are wasting your time with your propaganda on me :) There is nothing i have not heard before. Thanks God, we got good immunity to western propaganda since the disaster on 1991.
You better mind your own business. We (Russia) will never find common language with you (anti-Russian west). At least, i will do everything in my power to prevent our pro-western "democratic" scum like Kasparov, Kasjanov, Nemzov and similar low life come to power.
IustitiaPax(Sunday 23rd of November 2008 12:23:38 PM)
I am not anti-Russian. Stalin's crimes are historical facts, and they are not "western propaganda", but well documented facts. Communism caused most humans to die in the last 150 years. More than "the evil West" or "Hitler national-socialism". Do you realize this? And that Stalin, Trotsky and Lenin - later on Mao etc. too - were responsible? Lazar Mosesovich Kaganovich? Yagoda? In Russia these criminals are still worshipped, even by those outside Communist Party. Why?!!
PutinProper(Sunday 23rd of November 2008 01:03:28 PM)
Haha. If we assume there is no facts, only interpretations, and furthermore assume our interpretation is very different of yours, you would be able to understand "Why".
I am saying capitalism caused most human dies in history and i can easily find proves. I can also say that communism has not killed a single person and this is, too, easy to prove.
But all these discussions only good for propaganda purposes, to control weak-minded.
In reality, there is only right of the strong.
PutinProper(Sunday 23rd of November 2008 01:04:59 PM)
We lost, USA won, THIS is reality. But we are not dead yet, despite all efforts of our enemies, and we are ready for another round.
IustitiaPax(Sunday 23rd of November 2008 03:32:39 PM)
Marxism caused most dead, along with other left-wing ideologies, e.g. French liberalism (Jacobinism), radicalism and the consequence of 1789: nationalism. I am a subsidarian democratic monarchist with Christian convictions. As to capitalism: I am not a "pure" capitalist. I believe in corporatism-solidarism, and in a social market economy, with guilds and limits. These discussions are not about weak and strong, but about historical truth. Truth shall set you free! (Gospel of Saint John)
PutinProper(Sunday 23rd of November 2008 03:55:01 PM)
First you will have to convince me that there is such thing as "historical truth" common to everyone :)
IustitiaPax(Sunday 23rd of November 2008 11:46:18 AM)
Solhenitsin (A.) is not hated inside Russia, and is not loved by the West. Solzhenitsin is called a Russian nationalist and an antisemite in the West and Israel. Of course neo-Marxists and neo-Soviets like you do not respect a non-communist Russian freedomfighter like Solzhenitsin. I do not like Gorbachev. Or the Yeltsin economic disaster. But Stalin is far worse. Return to Soloviev.
IustitiaPax(Sunday 23rd of November 2008 11:44:27 AM)
Kaganovich, Stalin and Yagoda murdered more than 7 million Soviet citizens (mostly Ukrainians) in the Holodomor. You may glorify the criminal Stalin because you want a "Greater Russia" ideal, but Stalin was a shame to the Russian nation, not its saviour. Germany never had mass genocide or slavery at all. Remember Vlassov? The White Ruthenia movement? Kaminski? POA, SS-Cossacks? You believe Soviet-era lies on history.
PutinProper(Saturday 22nd of November 2008 06:30:29 PM)
This is just your opinion, we have another.
No point in discussion, there is no "facts" without interpretation, and your interpretation will always be anti-Russian, whatever you say.
